[7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED

Fri Jun 23 22:33:53 CDT 2006

Bud,

Thank you for not mentioning that Court Martial when I defended Ski from Hqs Supply after he and Bolino were weeks late coming back from R&R.  When they were acquitted at the Appelant level, I remember the S1 Officer chewing me out for what he called the "Biggest Miscarriage of Justice" he had ever seen.

Dick Phaneuf

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc 
To: 7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org
Sent: 6/23/2006 9:41:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED

Guys,

      I too am a firm believer in a proper and thorough investigative process.  After leaving the Corps, I served our nation as an FBI Special Agent and conducted numerous criminal investigations over my 32+ years in the Bureau.  Investigations can both clear and convict suspects, and my investigations went both ways.  The news media is not the place to try anyone, even though the press wants it that way.  Let the facts come out, and the truth will be known.  Please continue to have faith in our Corps, as we all deal with this very difficult time in the Corps' history.  Our guys and gals have done a marvelous job in both Afghanistan and Iraq, and I shout out my pride and support of this wonderful "new breed," as they protect our freedom.  Semper Fi!  -  "Bud" Paepcke, Bn. Legal Officer, Hdqtrs Co & Platoon Ldr, Charley Co (1966 - 1967).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc 
To: 7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED

Just wanted to weigh in on this, I was questioned by CID over a stolen 45 pistol, I am sure they will get this right! the young Marine who had to take the photos is in the next town over from us, well it put him over the top, he is having severe problems, legal and emotional, I wish the folk out there in television land knew about Military Justice, there is no such thing as Bail, so these Marines are going to spend time in the Brig, and we all remember Pendelton is a Red Line Brig. SF John Rainey "A" CO. 1968
----- Original Message ----- 
From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc 
To: 7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED

To Dick and other Brother Marines watching this blog: 

Thank you very much Dick, for your well considered reply.

I basically agree with you too. 

At some point we're just going to have to hush, and let the investigation roll.

This provision of a blog is very wonderful, in and of itself. Yet like other print type media, there is plenty of room for possible misunderstandings as we all process the statements we make through our own personal filters.

So I believe that if we were all sitting in the same room together, over say a beer and cigar, so to speak, that we would find that we're all much more on the same page with each other than we might otherwise believe.

Just a thought, Brother Marine.      

Bruce "Minesweep"  Belfield 
Hurricane, West Virginia
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---- 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc <7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org> wrote:

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Bruce,

I understand your fears and those stated by Augie and others and agree
with your saying that "Evil prevails where ever good men fail to stand up."
But, be sure you stand up for the right thing. At the moment, silence is
in order until the investigation is published and the mere mention of My
Lai in your comment could be jumped upon my the fickle media as proof that
an offense has been committed. The Marine Corps is one of the last truly
honorable institutions in our country. Be careful not to tarnish that
image with insinuations that, in this case, it is not capable of handling
the job.

SF,

Dick

> [Original Message]
> From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc
<7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> To: <7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> Date: 6/21/2006 8:45:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED
>
> I'll have to largely agree with "Augie" on this one.
>
> We Vet voters need to keep our elected and appointed officials mindful
that we're watching, and will not tolerate convictions by PC.
>
> While we as a people, and military, do not tolerate true "My Lai" type
incidents, there will be no scapegoating for the sake of appearances.
>
> I, like many, believe in our Corps UCMJ process as it operates without
outside influences. But that's the rub....We're ever increasingly living in
a world of PC and interfering political pressures. Is our Corps, or has it
always been, immune?
>
> Just remember, "Evil prevails where ever good men fail to stand up."
>
> Semper Fi,
>
> Bruce "Minesweep" Belfield
> 7th and 9th Engineers, RVN, Dec. '67 - March '70
> Hurricane, West Virginia
> MailTo:BruceBelfield at BruceBelfield.com
>
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>
>
>
> ---- 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc
<7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org> wrote:
>
> =============
> Well spoken Dick but in this day and age and the way the news
> media slants issues I feel these marines will not get a fair shake.
>
> Knowing first hand about the slanted, left media these troops
> haven't a chance for a fair hearing, at least media wise.
>
> I have faith in our Marine Corps but I do not have faith in the
> career elected officials, the ladder climbers, and wannabe polititians.
>
> I feel if we don't closely monitor them and their actions these
> marines will fall by the way side and be hung out to dry all for
> political "one ups manship".
>
> Now, I don't mean protests and rallies but watching what is happening
> and contacting congressman and such to make them aware that
> we as citizens and marines are watching and aware of what is happening
> and will not tolerate any nonsense. Remember, we voted these
> people in and we can vote them out of office.........if folks get
> Involved.
>
> Semper Fi
>
> Ed "Augie" Augustine
> RVN 65-66/68
>
> San Diego Sheriff's Department (Retired - Homicide)
>
>
> Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ-
>
> Right on Dick.
> Well said.
>
> Andy
>
>
> >From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc
> ><7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> >Reply-To: 7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org
> >To: <7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> >Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED
> >Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:38:39 -0400
> >
> >I agree, Dick. The Corps will do the right thing, whatever that is. -
> >"Bud" Paepcke, Hdqtrs and Charley Company (1966 - 1967)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans
> >Assoc<mailto:7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> > To: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans
> >Assoc<mailto:7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED
> >
> >
> > Fellow Marines,
> >
> > While I commend you all for your desire to stand by our accused brothers
> >and to ensure that they receive all the rights and protections they
> >deserve, I urge you to be very very careful in your reaction not to join
> >the fickle media by establishing an impression that if nothing is done,
> >these men won't get a fair shake. I for one, have complete and total
faith
> >in the Marine Corps and the UCMJ and given the high visibility that will
be
> >given to this case, I'm convinced that any and all efforts will be
applied
> >to ensure that such things as "Railroading" will not occur.
> >
> > As a "Mustang" officer who has seen both sides of the fence, I resent
> >some of the subtle innuendos circulating that, because these men are
> >members of the enlisted ranks, they will not receive as good a trial as
> >would an officer. To even suggest such a thing is an insult to our Corps.
> >I fear that the suggestion that we need to collect money to provide a
> >proper defense for these men will send a similar message and might even
be
> >looked upon by some as a financial scam.
> >
> > My advice to you is. . . Keep faith in your Marine Corps and those who
> >are running it today and don't let the Media drag you down into their pig
> >pen to wallow with them in the mud.
> >
> > Semper Fidelis,
> >
> > Dick Phaneuf
> > Bravo Six - 1967
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans
> >Assoc<mailto:7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> > To: 7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org<mailto:7thengbn at 3rdbridge.org>
> > Sent: 6/20/2006 8:48:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [7thengbn] TIME SENSITIVE - PLEASE READ- USMC RELATED
> >
> >
> > I am not in a position to activily help at this time, but am willing
> >to help finacially.
> > Semper Fi
> > Colonel Harris
> > 7th Engineer Battalion Vietnam Veterans Assoc wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mike and my Brothers of the "7th Engineer Battalion of Vietnam
> >Veteran's":
> >
> > PLEASE SEND TO ALL ON 7TH ENGNIEER BN LIST!
> >
> >
> > Today I joined my friend Tom Bolinder in a meeting to create a
> >non-profit corporation.
> >
> > Tom and I joined the Marine Corps on the buddy system. With him was
> >another mutual friend Mark O'Reilly who served in Vietnam with Kilo 3/1.
> >Also attending were two Marines who served in choppers, Jim Holland and
> >Robert Gale. Dominic Spada, a severely wounded Recon Marine who has spent
> >the post Vietnam experience with the DAV and is still helping Vets from
all
> >services. Leading the meeting was a former Marine Colonel Gerald M. Kirby
> >an Attorney formerly a JAG.
> >
> >
> > By telephone, Patrick Murphy, Chief Judge of the East St. Louis
> >Federal Court. Patrick also a former member of Kilo 3/1 and he served
with
> >O'Reilly.
> >
> >
> > My son, Captain Sean W. Barnes USMC 3rd Recon BN. served with 3/4 in
> >Iraq on his second tour in Hiditha guarding the Hiditha Dam.I'm familiar
> >with the area as a concerned Dad.
> >
> >
> > The events reported in Time magazine and all the media of killings
> >at Hiditha (Kilo 3/1) disturbed me to no end.
> >
> >
> > I have the feeling that these young Marines are going to be
> >"Railroaded" so the government can prove to the world that we don't
> >tolerate "Killing Civilians". You and I know in the fog of war bad
> >incidents happen and it's going to be the enlisted that are going to get
> >screwed.
> >
> >
> > In July last, Mark O'Reilly, Judge Pat Murphy and me went to
> >Bethesda Medical Center to visit two Marines from Kilo 3/1 that had been
> >badly wounded by IED's in different instances. These two L/Cpl's were
> >splendid examples of our Marines serving in Iraq and everywhere. They
were
> >and are not criminals. They are the finest! They wanted to be sent back
to
> >their units. It broke my heart to see their broken bodies. They are going
> >home after many months of rehab. Their lives are altered, as were many of
> >ours, for the rest of their lives. Judge Murphy said to us today that he
> >encounters criminals' everyday he sits on the Federal bench. These young
> >Marines are not CRIMINALS. They just want to protect their fellow Marines
> >and STAY ALIVE!
> >
> >
> > This country, in WWII, bombed Dresden civilians in Germany. Bombed
> >with Nuclear weapons on the Japanese to end WWII.
> >
> >
> > The purpose of this "Legal Defense Fund" is to defend those accused
> >of "HIGH CRIMES" in a WAR ZONE, regardless of their service branch.
> >
> >
> > The board must be made up of individuals from all over the US. Not a
> >big board. I need to hear from people who are interested in helping to
> >perhaps serve on the board or to organize fund raising in their
> >geographical area. Please indicate your ability to lend specific support
to
> >the board. (I.E. Attorney-Accountant-Fund Raising- ETC.)
> >
> >
> > We need a board small enough to be effective.
> >
> >
> > This Corporation will create a lot of controversy. Those of you with
> >100 % disabilities do not want to be on the board. If you are moving
toward
> >it you will not be on the board.
> >
> > If you have family serving on active duty don't get on the board.
> >Lots of haters exist and they will try to hurt you!
> >
> >
> > I need the email responses to bring to our next meeting on June 14,
> >2006.
> >
> >
> > Please understand this is a deadly serious matter.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your consideration my brother.
> >
> >
> > Semper Fi!
> >
> >
> > Patrick M. (Barney) Barnes
> >
> >
> > 1st Plt., 3rd Bridge Co., 7th Eng. Bn., 1st Mar Div., FMF
> >
> > 67-68 RVN
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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